Numerology and the Dave Smith Instruments MOPHO

[benway]

That's working like a dream, thanks so much for your help.

For anyone who needs it, the mopho quick reference guide is >here<, really useful but a bit hard to find in that yahoo group.

[jim]

I know this is an old thread, but first up thanks for the Mopho NRPN list, super helpful.

I'm probably being really dumb here, but I'm not quite getting what I need to enter into the NRPN generator in Numerology. For example, the list says:

nrpn h,l range parameter
0 0 0,0 0-120 osc1 freq, semitones C0-C10

I'd need to see more examples to be sure, but for that case, both MSB and LSB would be 0, min value 0, max value 120. Be sure that the SourceMode matches your CV source. For instance, if you're using an LFO, its output range will be from -1 to +1, so set scaling to "Source [-1, +1]".

I ran a quick test w/ the Tetra. The NRPN numbers for it begin on page 52 in my download of the manual. DSI just lists single NRPN numbers, and the ones in the "A" column are what work for a 'live' patch. Up to a number of 127, enter it into the LSB field, and set MSB to 0. If the number is greater than 127, you can calculate the MSB/LSB values like this:

MSB = <nrpn num> / 127 (integer division!)
LSB = <nrpn num> % 127 (modulo -- the remainder after integer division)

% means "modulo", which you can do via many calculators, and also by a google search:
"200 modulo 127" (which is 73).

I'm also trying to figure out NRPN for my Miniak, which is even worse. There's a list of parameters here:

http://ion-micron-miniak.wikia.com/wiki/Common_FAQ

But I can't for the life of me figure out what I need to be entering in Numerology. Hex values?

Numerology always uses decimal, and the values for the Miniak are decimal as well (notice no letters in the NRPN numbers). Looks like you would use the same math for nrpn's > 127 as for the Tetra. For instance, lfo 1 rate is nrpn 159:

159 / 127 = 1 (remember: integer division).
159 % 127 = 32

so MSB is 1, LSB is 32.

Now what doesn't make sense to me is that some of their NRPN value ranges have negative values. AFAIK, NRPN values cannot be negative -- the lowest value is zero. I suppose send them an email and ask, or just experiment -- the synth engine should limit values appropriately.

Cheers,
Jim

[benway]

I know this is an old thread, but first up thanks for the Mopho NRPN list, super helpful.

I'm probably being really dumb here, but I'm not quite getting what I need to enter into the NRPN generator in Numerology. For example, the list says:

nrpn h,l range parameter
0 0 0,0 0-120 osc1 freq, semitones C0-C10

I'm also trying to figure out NRPN for my Miniak, which is even worse. There's a list of parameters here:

http://ion-micron-miniak.wikia.com/wiki/Common_FAQ

But I can't for the life of me figure out what I need to be entering in Numerology. Hex values?

I just found a hack for those who are interested - mod selection on the synth allows you to assign a cc value to a parameter, then you can just work ahead with cc messages. Not ideal, but it's a hell of a lot easier than NRPN ... to me, at least.

http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/...lla-18/317427-

Any assistance much appreciated.

[amsonx]

i've made a little video showing how Numerology can modulate the mopho.Nothing special just only a demonstration

Link

[amsonx]

i've ordered mine yesterday and so i'm doing some googlish
and found this useful reference with a complete NPRN parameter table

(the file is at the page bottom)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/DSI_Evolver/files/

[sunsinger]

Numerology can use these analog monosynth modules quite beautifully.

It's essentially a single 2 oscillator voice from the Prophet "08 with all of the features of the Prophet voice. Featured are the 16 note 4 layer sequencer, 3 envelopes, complex modulator routing, external audio input, and a free software editor, etc.

This thing is like a Prophet version of the desktop Evolver. I have the Prophet '08, a Poly Evolver Module, and the Mono Evolver Keyboard and I love the sound of these things. So a little one voice Analog Module (for around $400) to trigger with Numerology is really too cool.