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  • Novation Launchpad Support

    Starting with version 2.3, Numerology offers extensive support for the Novation Launchpad. This post is your one-stop guide for information about this mapping.

    A quick-reference guide & templates for stickers you can print are here:
    http://files.five12.com/N2-Lpad-Templates.zip

    FYI: the "sticker" file is formatted for Avery 8253 labels as sold in the US. These are 2" x 4" labels with 10 labels on a 8.5" x 11" sheet. These particular labels print well, but tend to leave a residue on the plastic when pulled off later. Both .png and photoshop format files are present so you can modify the template as you see fit.

    Using Numerology & the Launchpad with Automap:

    The Launchpad has a very simple MIDI protocol, which is what makes it so easy to work with, but also makes it difficult to use with more than one program at a time. To disable the Launchpad from Automap while using it with Numerology, hold down the User1, User2 and Mixer buttons while pressing the "down arrow" button. Pushing those buttons again will re-enable the Launchpad for use with Automap.
    Last edited by jim; 07-26-2017, 01:31 PM.

  • #2
    You should get sponsored by Novation. After reading the extatic user experiences with Numerology and Launchpad, I had to go get one.

    I`m happy to say it`s working even better than expected

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    • #3
      Hi,
      first time post here I´m thinking about getting Numerology and a Launchpad. Will the Launchpad work with Numerology, if it´s is setup as a rewire slave? I want to use it for MIDI sequencing and rewire it to cubase 5, when working in the studio.

      And i´d like to build a live set around Ableton Live and Numerology. Would it be possible to have two Launchpads, one controling Live while the other one is controling the rewire slaved Numerology?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rasmus View Post
        Hi,
        first time post here I´m thinking about getting Numerology and a Launchpad. Will the Launchpad work with Numerology, if it´s is setup as a rewire slave? I want to use it for MIDI sequencing and rewire it to cubase 5, when working in the studio.
        Yes, the Launchpad mapping works in ReWire mode.

        Originally posted by rasmus View Post
        And i´d like to build a live set around Ableton Live and Numerology. Would it be possible to have two Launchpads, one controling Live while the other one is controling the rewire slaved Numerology?
        I haven't had a chance to test this, so I can't say for sure, but it should work. Numerology can only use the first Launchpad attached, but you can set Live to work with any specific Launchpad directly (in prefs).

        FYI: Keep in mind that if you have the Automap Server installed, you'll need to disable the Numerology-targeted Launchpad from Automap. Instructions here: http://www.five12.com/vbForum/showthread.php?t=811

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        • #5
          hi, i am new here...
          i have a mac, ableton max4live, an apc40, NI maschine and at least a launchpad...
          today i have found this superb software numerology and i've bought it immediately..

          i think that the combination with launchpad and numerology is the best ever!!

          i will spend the night to check out the whole features of numerology...

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          • #6
            Using launchpad in Mixer Mode

            Hello Jim and Numerologists

            I want to begin producing more structured output and believe one of the main hurdles in that process is lack of hands on control, so therefore I'm very close to making a decision to get a launchpad.

            Before buying I have a few questions;

            I presently have a problem with overuse of CPU heavy plugs, my work around has been to mix my arrangement with a set of say, 10 stacks where I at any one time am running four-six live. I mute, zero the faders and turn off the stacks/channels not in use then in the run of the session I turn stacks on and off as needed, this saves CPU cycles, and still gives me access to a lot of possibilties for creating long varieated arrangements without first having to upgrade my computer.

            I've also acquired Logic Express and will use that to optimize and assemble audio tracks add live materiel sound effects and so on , but I want to keep as much of the control aspects; of effects and synthesizers, CV and midi within Numerology in stand alone mode.

            1) I would like to know if its possible to turn off individual stacks with the launchpad, as that would be my most pressing need right now.


            2) Will there be Launchpad implementaion for controlling the discreet CV sequencers. (I find these the most flexible to work with.) I know you mentioned this was on your list on another thread any ideas as to when it will happen?

            3) How hard is it to implement control of aspects of Numerology with the launchpad for a user with minimal programming experience. Does midi learn get you very far in this process, or is it programming on a deeper level that is necessary?

            Aside from Jim Coker I’d be very grateful if any users of the Launchpad with numerology could chime in.

            Best Regards

            Wade
            Last edited by TwoToneshuzz; 08-21-2010, 06:49 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
              1) I would like to know if its possible to turn off individual stacks with the launchpad, as that would be my most pressing need right now.

              Not yet, but that is a reasonable request.

              Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
              2) Will there be Launchpad implementaion for controlling the discreet CV sequencers. (I find these the most flexible to work with.) I know you mentioned this was on your list on another thread any ideas as to when it will happen?
              That is the plan, to add control for the CV seqs and a few other modules (fader box, button box) to the pro version. I can't say exactly yet when it will happen, but requests like this definitely help bump it up.

              Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
              3) How hard is it to implement control of aspects of Numerology with the launchpad for a user with minimal programming experience. Does midi learn get you very far in this process, or is it programming on a deeper level that is necessary?
              Integrating the launchpad with Numerology to the depth provided by the current mapping requires some very detailed programming. Theoretically it could be done with something like Max, but that if that idea give me a headache...

              For me personally, the Launchpad integration feature was a big breakthrough -- both in terms of realizing what could be done with a grid controller with programmable colors, and in terms of how nice it is to use Numerology with a zero-configuration controller that has deep control options. So, yes, I'll definitely continue to add new options for it.

              Cheers,
              Jim

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              • #8
                Thanks for the concise reply...

                I'm thinking through the launchpad thing, and have been getting ideas as to how I can get to where I'm wanting to go with the present implimentation. For example turning off the CPU hungry plug-ins within a stack and saving that state as preset could get me access to achieving the CPU savings I'm looking for from the preset page of the launchpad.

                Thanks again!

                Wade

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                • #9
                  Yeah, I'd love to be able to switch off stacks (and, if possible, individual synth / fx plugins) programmatically and/or remotely too.

                  I'd also like to take the opportunity to also ask for the possibility to mute the MIDI (and audio) inputs of a stack, and the possibility to modulate it.

                  And if we could combine a few things in a smart way and maybe build those into Numerology as a default option / module / feature somehow, it could be even more useful for conserving CPU (as also discussed elsewhere on the forum with regard to Plogue Bidule).

                  What I typically would like to do:
                  1) first mute incoming MIDI for a stack / plugin, so it stops playing new notes, but synths continue to play through the release stages of their envelopes; effects such as reverb and delay are allowed to continue.
                  2) in the meantime, monitor the audio output, and only if the level falls below some user-definied minimum level threshold (for some period of time), it will continue to the final step:
                  3) switch off a stack / synth + effect plugins to conserve CPU.
                  (of course, switching it back on should happen immediately).

                  In order to inspire some more thoughts and discussion, I have attached a sample project that basically does a big part of this (1+2), however, in a way arguably too complex manner to comfortably manage for more complicated projects.

                  (In the "Mute" stack, press the button labelled "Mute" and wait until the release/reverb/delay tail 'ends', then watch the last button being switched on.)
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                  Last edited by Sjoerd; 08-21-2010, 02:03 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
                    I'm thinking through the launchpad thing, and have been getting ideas as to how I can get to where I'm wanting to go with the present implimentation. For example turning off the CPU hungry plug-ins within a stack and saving that state as preset could get me access to achieving the CPU savings I'm looking for from the preset page of the launchpad.
                    Funny, I was just about to post that tip -- that the on/off switches for individual modules are saved w/ the stack presets, so you can use that to setup a 'muted' or 'off' preset.

                    As Sjoerd's post brings up, that doesn't handle 'note tails', but you can at least do that manually: one preset to mute whatever is generating notes, then a 2nd that adds the 'off' switch on any AU modules.

                    Cheers,
                    Jim

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                    • #11
                      I've got the note tails covered!

                      The way I've set up my sequencers using interval sequencers gates seq. and velocity seq. makes handling reverb/delay tails a breeze. I just mute the midi note generator that sends to the plug in and the note ons stop being sent out as the synth effects go on processing whatevers in it's dsp buffer.

                      When turning off the stack in the mixer I've also usually faded out the sound either manually or have a lfo or parametre mod seq do it for me.

                      I think I'll be getting that launchpad, there's a fellow on the otherside of town that doesn't need his anymore!!

                      Best Regards

                      Wade

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                      • #12
                        Update Using Launchpad

                        Hello Numerologists!

                        Just a short update on using Launchpad!

                        First off it's strongly recommended!!

                        The launchpad is an egronomic handle on some of the most used parameters on the Mono note interface. I don't as yet use it with the other supported sequencers as I am mono note man generally as I prefer building my pieces up polyphonically one line at a time.

                        I find using the sequencer control page (right side fourth button from top) makes trying diffrent settings out on a sequence incredibly easy. Changing octaves, keys, note subdivision values, is fast and intuitive, doing it on the fly while the sequence is running, turns the sequence control page into an instrument unto itself.

                        The start and stop step as well as skip step control page (right side third button from the top) makes it easy to extract sections out of an existing sequence; say you start off with a 32 step sequence with the launch pad it is very quick to move start and stop step and find interesting sub-sequences in real time with the added benefit of initiating both start and stop step at the same instant, I get more bold and try out more things like skipping out the middle steps or every other note shortening the phrase down to a 2 or 3 or 4 tones gives a trill or a three or four note melodic cell, then hop to the sequence control page and use the transpose or key buttons to move the trill or cell around the pitch range really fun and useful stuff.
                        These capabilities also help speed up finding the best pitch range and speed for a synth preset. Sound design and sound searching just got a lot faster!

                        Programing sequences Is a gas! the sequence top rightmost edit button gets you onto the page where you change the pitches. You're looking at a 8 steps and a range of 7 diatonic scale tones. At first glance a somewhat limited window into the interface. Despite this I find that with time I'm getting a better grip finding my way around sequences that are longer than eight steps using the left and right arrow buttons(top row, third and fourth buttons from the left) or navigating using the octave navigation buttons (square buttons top row). Getting a better grip on using the octave transpose buttons green=active octave range gold=inactive and reading and understanding the corresponding colour of the tones widens the usefullness of this most important edit page; if a tone is green you are in the right octave red and it's not within the currently active range so using the octave range squarebuttons to navigate to them until they turn green. It takes a little getting used to but it's still a lot more fun to use the launchpad to program sequences than a mouse. Also I think using the launchpad in close coordination with the visual feedback of the GUI on the computer screen when programming sequences is key to getting the most out of this aspect of using the launchpad with numerologies sequencers. If you tap a tone two times it mutes that tone, but I'm a little unclear on the visual feedback aspect of this funcition.

                        Just a additional thought or two about the limitations of a 56 note matrix for programming sequences. If you opted for using say four launchpads to get more total hands on control over sequences (not possible at present) I think the interface would get so ungainly that the charm and the simplicity of the desktop would get lost. Huge interfaces become so complex and visually cluttered that instead of a help they become a burden.
                        I vote for simple controllers "a super pointer"with on screen GUI that aids the user in hopping around program as opposed to a button for every function type interface.

                        Advantages are they are smaller more universal and most importantly less expensive.

                        The other functions of the Launchpad are the gate+step length page (right side fifth button from top) really opens up the programming of gates fast easy and which again makes going into details as to gate lengths more intuitive. The length parametre is something that I had not used so much before getting the Launchpad, preferring to use shorter base time values and ties to reach the same goal. But now I'm learning that there are many advantages to working with length times instead. I think this last point shows up an aspect of using controllers to access parametres in a program, they function as teachers/ tactile "smart tips" to get you working in a more effective way.

                        Velocity/Groove page
                        (right side 6th button form top) in the same way as the gate page it's much easier to try out various velocity settings so experimentation is encouraged and you reach your goals more quickly. Groove function I've been reluctant to take the groove function in use but this type of hands on access really has encouraged me to experiment with this parametre. It works! Crazy man!

                        Divide and Repeat (right side 7th button from top) , I use these sparingly but its nice to have a handle on them, again hands on access makes experimentation easy, and addictive.

                        Random jump/pitch glide two less used parametres but programming the pitch glide has often been something that is difficult to get right so doing it from the launchpad relieves some of the fiddly aspects of getting it to work..

                        Motto: less MOUSE = more EARS!

                        Other aspects of the Launchpad + Numerology..

                        Preset control(toprow fourth button from right. This is a great function that makes running a series of presets from up to eight stacks with out using the arrow buttons extremely easy intuitive powerful, this function alone makes getting a launchpad for numerologists that work extensively with presets worth it!

                        Rack navigation
                        This page makes getting around complex setups with multiple stacks and modules very quick and effective. Unfortunatly the GUI does not scroll up to the active module in the stack, but I've solved this by getting a magictrack pad that with it's twofinger scrolling makes it extremely fast to navigate around a stack. I don't have to reach and grip a mouse to scroll I just select the module on the Launchpad and then two finger swipe the magic trackpad Vuptii I'm there!!

                        Mixer, I use the mixer for quick visual orientation of levels and for muting tracks. I have setup a novation nocturn controller for fintuning of stack/mixer levels, solo and aux sends. I don't think the resolution in the mixer page of the launchpad is for dynamic mixing it's more for setting up levels and aux sends before intiating the transport. I guess it could be made to work with some kind of built in interpolation between steps but as yet this is not implemented.

                        I hope those of you who are still waiting to get a launchpad will be able to use this information in your decision making process.

                        Best Regards

                        Wade
                        Last edited by TwoToneshuzz; 10-03-2010, 05:47 AM.

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                        • #13
                          That's a totally awesome writeup! I agree with everything except perhaps the multiple launchpad bit -- I'd like to support at least two-at-a-time to make it easier to edit 16-step sequences, or to be able to edit two separate sequences (or a sequence and the preset page) at the same time. However, there is definitely a 'zen' about working just within that one controller.

                          Cheers,
                          Jim

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jim View Post
                            That's a totally awesome writeup! I agree with everything except perhaps the multiple launchpad bit -- I'd like to support at least two-at-a-time to make it easier to edit 16-step sequences, or to be able to edit two separate sequences (or a sequence and the preset page) at the same time. However, there is definitely a 'zen' about working just within that one controller.

                            Cheers,
                            Jim
                            Thanks for the compliment, I love the work your doing, so it was time for a little launchpad numerology pad feedback!

                            The point about using two launchpads instead one is well taken. I'm just a bit shy about taking too many toys to town. Makes the natives jealous!

                            After writing my opinions about the big interfaces I take it back. I guess I'm thinking back on how busy and distracting a 24 channel mixer is. I listen better in the dark!!.

                            Thanks so much for your great work on the launchpad. I'm curious to see what the "play" button will be used for. But don't worry I'm more than satisfied with the Numerology implementation of Lauchpad control as it stands now.

                            Best Regards

                            Wade

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
                              Thanks for the compliment, I love the work your doing, so it was time for a little launchpad numerology pad feedback!
                              Thanks!

                              Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
                              The point about using two launchpads instead one is well taken. I'm just a bit shy about taking too many toys to town. Makes the natives jealous!
                              Totally understood!

                              Originally posted by TwoToneshuzz View Post
                              After writing my opinions about the big interfaces I take it back. I guess I'm thinking back on how busy and distracting a 24 channel mixer is. I listen better in the dark!!.

                              Thanks so much for your great work on the launchpad. I'm curious to see what the "play" button will be used for. But don't worry I'm more than satisfied with the Numerology implementation of Lauchpad control as it stands now.
                              The Play page will be for live-recording patterns into the sequencers. It will be a bit tricky to implement, but I have some ideas...

                              Cheers,
                              Jim

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